tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5357884563112855603.post8811367915813419294..comments2024-03-23T18:02:04.769+01:00Comments on The Business Model Database (tbmdb.com) - A blog about business models: Is there a need for customer value creation models?Anders Sundelinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10744902263118677960noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5357884563112855603.post-36269301239101020112012-04-15T17:08:24.088+02:002012-04-15T17:08:24.088+02:00Hi Alex,
Thanks for clarifying, and sorry for not ...Hi Alex,<br />Thanks for clarifying, and sorry for not being up do date with your work. I agree that your new Customer Value Map could capture what I was thinking of, if I look at it in isolation and if I include complementary value propositions to create gains or relieve pains. <br /><br />I think what I am really after is combining the-create-gains-and-relieve-pains-concept, with a stakeholder-relationship-transaction business model perspective. I will have to create a post about the Pain & Gain Business Model Framework :)<br /><br />Take care,<br />//AndersAnders Sundelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10744902263118677960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5357884563112855603.post-12711287878965575282012-04-15T16:27:46.439+02:002012-04-15T16:27:46.439+02:00The Customer Value Map (we changed the word ;-) in...The Customer Value Map (we changed the word ;-) indeed looks at the company perspective first. However, nothing prevents a user from designing a Value Proposition with multiple "value providers" in mind.<br /><br />In fact, that's the reason why we have the Key Partners in the Business Model Canvas: so the co-design of value by multiple organizations is not totally lost.<br /><br />//AlexAlex Osterwalderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12889603727310635566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5357884563112855603.post-2505042679895223272012-04-15T14:13:25.657+02:002012-04-15T14:13:25.657+02:00@Andreas
Thank you for your comment Andreas, I don...@Andreas<br />Thank you for your comment Andreas, I don't know why your post got stuck in the spam filter, perhaps it was the link you included. <br /><br />The reworked business model canvas that you refer to was not fully clear to me, and I would need more information to draw any conclusions from it. <br /><br />I will look into the NABC model, thanks!<br /><br />//AndersAnders Sundelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10744902263118677960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5357884563112855603.post-25374407424485139912012-04-15T07:50:10.794+02:002012-04-15T07:50:10.794+02:00Thank you for your comments, and for updating me o...Thank you for your comments, and for updating me on an interesting new canvas from Alex. <br /><br />@A...<br />Interesting canvas, I have not looked at it before and I have not talked to Alex about it. http://www.businessmodelalchemist.com/2012/01/the-customer-value-canvas-v-0-8.html<br /><br />Alex writes that " It describes: (A) For each Customer Segment: which jobs a customer is trying to get done, and all the related customer pains and customer gains (B) For each Value Proposition: the bundle of products & services targeted at the customer and how they are expected to create gains or relieve pains.<br /><br />After reading his blogpost my comment is that, yes it seems to be aiming to that direction, yet to my understanding it is a breakdown of the value proposition, still from the organization you analyze. If you in the left hand side would include value proposition from others towards the customer for "gain creators" and "pain relievers", to complement your own value propositions, I think it would be even more in the direction I'm asking for. I'm looking forward to hear more about the new canvas, and I'm glad to see that Alex continues to innovate. <br /><br />Thanks for pointing out the framework! <br /><br /><br />@Coprocessor<br />Thanks for your comment. I fully agree with you that it is possible to use the canvas abstraction to look at a joint-venture, a consortium, public-private-partnership etc. thus defining the boundaries of the concept of 'organization' differently. However, starting from a customer perspective, with for example "the job to be done" or "pains/gains" my point is that it might be a range of organizations (not necessarily organized together in any form) that together enables "the job to be done". Using the canvas for what I'm looking for might be possible, I would however use different canvases for the different organizations and then see how the different value propositions from the different organizations fit together to get the job done. To do so, I don't need to use all the elements of the canvas for the different organizations, thus there should be a more efficient way of looking at this. Shouldn't it?<br /><br />//AndersAnders Sundelinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10744902263118677960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5357884563112855603.post-5292079438271092212012-04-14T23:43:07.710+02:002012-04-14T23:43:07.710+02:00The Business Model Canvas is an abstraction that d...The Business Model Canvas is an abstraction that does not rule out joint ventures, consortiums, ppp's etc. It focuses on the quintessential building blocks, leaving space to define the bounderies of the concept of 'organization', key resources and key partners. Doesn't it?Coprocessorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08807713005152820491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5357884563112855603.post-33936847477114300592012-04-14T22:13:15.226+02:002012-04-14T22:13:15.226+02:00Alex O's Customer Value Canvas might be aiming...Alex O's Customer Value Canvas might be aiming to that direction?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5357884563112855603.post-51077642409907679482012-04-14T20:38:51.167+02:002012-04-14T20:38:51.167+02:00Hi Anders,
Interesting point. For my work, i.e. i...Hi Anders,<br /><br />Interesting point. For my work, i.e. in my Business Model-Framework (result of my dissertation), I'm adressing this point via the integration of the NABC-Tool. Co-Creation can be formulated or visualized in the "A" of the NABC-Tool, i.e. the Approach. Co-Creation by itself is not a specific component in my framework.<br /><br />http://www.businessmodelcreativity.net/files/2011/11/bmposter_21.jpg<br /><br />I would discuss or develop customer value creation via personas and customer experience/ journey design and bring the results via the NABC-Tool and an adequate value proposition into a business model framework. I'm not sure if we need specific customer value creation models.<br /><br />Best Regards<br /><br />AndreasAndreashttp://www.businessmodelcreativity.net/noreply@blogger.com